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Road rage against rollerskiers

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:10 pm
by Neuro
There is a known case where French biathlete Simon Fourcade was driven off the road on purpose while training in France and got hurt, but it's happened to veteran XC skier Anders Aukland and I'm sure others as well. Aukland actually had to take off his ski and use as a weapon as the driver came out to beat him up having missed him with the car.

In the news yesterday was the case of a skier outside Oslo here being hit twice by the same car, making it obvious he was out to maim the skier. Luckily he was caught so probably nothing more from him.

But on forums and elsewhere it's quite common to hear of this and I've experienced some of the antagonism myself when I had to do a public road when my normal path was not opened yet, although I found most generally quite considerate.

Somehow some people go nuts at the sight of rollerskiers on the road. Not only because they have to slow down, but for as long as I can remember, there have been articles in the news and elsewhere about those horrible 'speed skiers' using common ski tracks in winter, so my guess is that there's a kind of envy since the criticism is always unmerited and usually based on some inane bizarre stuff like that the fast skiers are 'drooling like dogs' and have 'fish eyes' popping out from the exertions, 'not enjoying the nature' etc.

And none more envious than older or unfit drivers is my guess.

Re: Road rage against rollerskiers

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:40 am
by Magnus Johansson
Here is an example of a Swedish car driver that thinks roller skiers are idiots. He writes under the video: "One has to be very stupid in the head if one roller skis in the middle of summer in 26 degrees C."
Ha, ha, ha!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrrSnGFQrVo

Re: Road rage against rollerskiers

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:06 am
by trotro
to quote Simon

"I only had a few scratches"

Image

after hitting him the driver threatened him with an Axe !

Re: Road rage against rollerskiers

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:28 pm
by davidb
It's never been a problem for me, but I have skied in a small group. some of whom insist on skiing along side each other, sometimes three wide!
Please ski single file and move over so as not to obstruct auto traffic.

We really don't need specific laws that prohibit our very odd pass time, and we sure don't need another fatality!

Re: Road rage against rollerskiers

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:22 pm
by Neuro
Now Jessica Diggins has had a bad moment with an aggressive driver in her home town Afton, Minnesota.
http://jessiediggins.com/road-safety-sn ... ol-chants/

Re: Road rage against rollerskiers

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:52 pm
by MN Hoser
I saw Jessie and her former coach on that day (last Sunday). This is where we rollerski ever weekend sometimes Sat and Sun, and other junior groups are out there training as well, so the area sees rollerskiers all the time.

We used to have such a problem with the drivers who got out of church that we had to change our route.

Jay

Re: Road rage against rollerskiers

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:04 am
by Neuro
They would harass skiers after church? Not very 'christian' that.

Re: Road rage against rollerskiers

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:48 am
by MN Hoser

Re: Road rage against rollerskiers

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:03 pm
by trotro
wow, thanks for the news about JD. Glad the town take it seriously.

Re: Road rage against rollerskiers

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:50 pm
by MN Hoser
In past years, Jessie has skied with her coach (Jason) who was on a bike. This year, no Jason and it seems she's in town longer. I'm not sure why that is or if it's just my imagination.

Yesterday I hopped out of the car, set down my skis, looked up and Jessie skied by. She's been doing some talks or events locally. I have to say that she's got a great attitude.

Jay

Re: Road rage against rollerskiers

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:44 am
by Neuro
Fantastic attitude and really a star. No doubt she'll continue to be one of the best skiers and for years to come with Johaug, Kalla et al. So glad nothing happened now. There really ought to be a private road or something top athletes could go to and not risk their whole career on public ones with some crazies having a bad day.

Re: Road rage against rollerskiers

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:45 pm
by li├Ęge
In past years, Jessie has skied with her coach (Jason) who was on a bike. This year, no Jason and it seems she's in town longer. I'm not sure why that is or if it's just my imagination.


A little bit of both. The bike is mostly used during intensity sessions. She is in town a few days longer this year, but she also has had a lot more speaking and sponsor engagements in the area.

Afton is shockingly friendly to rollerskiers (at least, if their name is Jessie Diggins). And I saw only two cars in 50 minutes on River Road last Friday.

As an aside, Afton Alps is closed to trainers right now - a lot of construction vehicles rolling around. But there are quite good trails in Afton State Park. From near the start of the campground trail by river, up the path towards the campsites (finishing near site 0 or 4) is a solid three minutes @ L4.

Re: Road rage against rollerskiers

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:30 am
by JeffOYB
interesting how the Jessie story developed. first big news item had the driver apologizing and Jessie saying that's OK. then a few days later the prosecutor got wind of it and said wait a minute we're not going to tolerate this at all, we're going to have zero road rage acceptance, it's not part of this scene, and he threw the book at the driver -- with 5 charges. wow, such a change! it's encouraging. the culture is engrained on both sides that "sometimes drivers flip out, what can ya do." it wd be amazing if prosecutors nationwide said "those days are over."

Re: Road rage against rollerskiers

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:31 am
by JeffOYB
interesting how the Jessie story developed. first big news item had the driver apologizing and Jessie saying that's OK, we just want to be safe. then a few days later the prosecutor got wind of it and said wait a minute we're not going to tolerate this at all, we're going to have zero road rage acceptance, it's not part of this scene, and he threw the book at the driver -- with 5 charges. wow, such a change! it's encouraging. the culture is engrained on both sides that "sometimes drivers flip out, what can ya do." it wd be amazing if prosecutors nationwide said "those days are over." ...this also relates to the usual "slap on the hand" for killing vulnerable users. maybe things will change.