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Do Scandi ski mags and forums do a lot of reviewing?

Postby JeffOYB » Wed Feb 11, 2015 1:41 pm

Some of us have commented that in the US the XC ski gear reviewing is close to zero even though for our other outdoor sport -- including BC, AT, alpine skiing -- but also biking, paddlesport, climbing, backpacking, running -- well, EVERY other area -- reviewing is HUGE ... big biz, even.

(I wonder why XC is SUCH a dropped potato...)

Does reviewing come on strong elsewhere in the XC world? Like in Scandinavia? ...In print mags and/or forums or both?

Is there a website or forum we English speakers could take a look at and maybe give Google translate a little fun?
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Re: Do Scandi ski mags and forums do a lot of reviewing?

Postby Chris » Wed Feb 11, 2015 4:11 pm

I think part of the issue is with something like running shoes, every size 10 Nike XXXXX should theoretically perform about the same. This isn't the case with skis. Even if you have the correctly sized ski for your weight in a brand, model, and sub model there can still be significant variation in how that ski will perform compared to another one that is the same model and sub model. Neither pair may be bad, but one may be more suited to arctic temperature hardpack and the other to a more moderate temp medium firmness, even if they were both the "cold" model. This makes reviews not worth as much. With shoes there isn't really any variation in the amount of trail running grip or some other metric people care about depending on which size 10 you take off the shelf. Same with something like bike frames as far as I know.

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Re: Do Scandi ski mags and forums do a lot of reviewing?

Postby JeffOYB » Wed Feb 11, 2015 4:26 pm

Maybe that explains a somewhat small part. But racing skis are just one part of the overall XC market. Though that custom tailored flex aspect is worth considering -- funny that it would result in a hush or chill on the chatter about what people are using. It just seems very odd today when everything else is buzzing more than ever! How the 6 or so brands interpret the various flex aspects might be something to debate even more than if they were all cookie-cutter. ?

People certainly debate and buzz about every other kind of CUSTOM TAILORED item out there. Fancy clothing, custom bikes, specialized gun fit. Everything is buzzing! ...XC is quiet. Odd.

Then there maybe 50 models of all the other grades of skis going up to where we enter the BC/tele segment. And that's just skis.

Then there are the boots, bindings, poles, waxes, accessories...

For people who don't like noise maybe we should spread the word about XC. It's the quietest of quiet sports. Nobody says a word...

In English anyway.

Is it as quiet in Scandiland?
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Re: Do Scandi ski mags and forums do a lot of reviewing?

Postby osloskier » Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:26 pm

Unbelievably, there is no Norwegian xc forum! Which is one of the reasons why I'm here. There was one at langrenn.com, but they closed it down. Now we're relegated to the off-topic section of the mountainbiking forum. Some Norwegians hang out at the Swedish skidforum.se.

There is quite a bit of information to be found here and there on the net, but it's scattered all over. Facebook, discussons below articles published on the store sites, a few blogs, articles on skiing club sites. Generally it's very quiet, even though practically every Norwegian is skiing. It really is weird.

UTE magazine (ute = outside) tests skis from time to time, but that's mostly BC equipment. There is "Snø & Ski", the magazine published by Skiforeningen (Skiers union). Knut Nystad's blog has some great info about ski prepping, and he will often answer questions. There is a lot of knowledge in the skiing clubs and at a few specialist stores. In Oslo, we have three good stores. As chris says, there's not much point in testing racing skis as individual pairs differ so much. You would have to test ten pairs of each model to separate what characteristics are common to each model and brand. All the big brands all produce really good skis. One difference is sidecut - Madshus skis have sidecut, which I like.

The few really good stores have extremely interested and knowledgeable people who can find just the right ski. One time at Oslo Sportslager, the guy squeezed and scrutinized about 20-30 pairs, measured five or so, and concluded that one of them was the one I was looking for - and he was right.

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Re: Do Scandi ski mags and forums do a lot of reviewing?

Postby JeffOYB » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:46 pm

Interesting!

Back to my midlength topic... When I first tried them they were new and there was some buzz about the concept in our only XC mag in the US. I thought I'd give em a whirl. So one spring day I tried all the models that the store had in its demo/rental fleet. About 6 different skis. I was surprised how different they were from each other! And how BAD some were for looking like a modern ski. Who knows, maybe it was all in the base prep. Earlier I had been thinking of them as somewhat like race skis: they all work. Half of them didn't even work for me. Maybe they've dialed in the midlength concept better since. Hope so!

I tried an Evo Tour once -- the blue one -- and it was DEAD. No glide or liveliness -- low camber, it felt like. Friends tell me they handle and turn well. Maybe a flatter ski does handle fast downhills nicely. At least 6 of my friends use these skis. When we hit singletrack, I see a LOT of blue.

Well, I tried the Evo Glade/Quest (turquoise -- it's outside now I forget the model!). It was slightly older. Maybe less of a cap style. A slightly older tech appearance. ...And this ski is GREAT for me! It turns great and glides nicely, too. Springy in the camber.
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Re: Do Scandi ski mags and forums do a lot of reviewing?

Postby TheProdigalCyclist » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:33 pm

osloskier wrote: All the big brands all produce really good skis. One difference is sidecut - Madshus skis have sidecut, which I like.


I just picked up a pair of older Atomics Beta Race Skate skis, and they have sidecut. Why don't more manufacturers design with sidecut?

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Re: Do Scandi ski mags and forums do a lot of reviewing?

Postby osloskier » Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:32 am

TheProdigalCyclist: Beats me. I think skis with sidecut are much more lively and responsive.

langrenn.com does a lot of reviewing.

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Re: Do Scandi ski mags and forums do a lot of reviewing?

Postby osloskier » Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:18 pm

www.kondis.no does racing gear reviews.


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