Skin ski, what to get?

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Re: Skin ski, what to get?

Postby Neuro » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:17 am

Blah wrote:the problem you are having with the skis has nothing to do with the brand. You have a pair of skis that is too stiff for you. All of the R-skins I have skied are very easy to kick.

What is your weight? Did you happen to the keep the stickers that were on the base of the ski? If you have those still I can tell you exactly how close the skis are to your weight. For the R-Skins I tend to pick a ski that is about 4kg over my weight and I still get great kick and glide.

If you are running an NNN binding you could slide the binding forward to improve on your grip, especially in icy conditions where getting grip is more difficult.

I'm 82kg / 189 cm but there were no stickers on the base of the ski. There was only a tag by a serviceman that said they were measured.

I contacted the Rossignol importer and they said like you the R-skins are slightly softer and one should go for ~5kg more than recommended, but since I'm mostly going to be classic skiing with the family and not really striding full tilt, I gave my real weight to the shop instead of the weight+5kg, so in reality they should be softer rather than harder. The only thing is that the shop might have adjusted for this.

I did not try to move the binding yet, so there's that, but as you confirm, the icy and grainy conditions is probably a big factor here.

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Re: Skin ski, what to get?

Postby Neuro » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:23 am

skiffrace wrote:
Magnus Johansson wrote:Yes, a trail in the woods is nicer than a road with cars

Where do you guys rollerski up there? Do you really go out on the road with traffic?
Even if my rollerski skills were much better, I would think 3x before venturing there.
For me, it's only bicycle trails, with (reasonably) smooth surface and (reasonably) flat.
This means that regardless if this is Portland, OR, or tri-city, Poland, such places are few and far between.

I really don't want to go on trafficked roads at all, but the first trips of the year when the paths are still full of gravel, I find a road in the woods and go there. But as soon as the gravel is cleard I go my usual path along the river in the city. Nice mix of uphills and flats.

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Re: Skin ski, what to get?

Postby skiffrace » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:42 am

Magnus Johansson wrote:Yes, countryside roads, but we prefer bicycle trails, or even better: roller ski courses.

Dedicated roller ski courses? Wow, they put your tax money to good use in Sweden!!! In US it's F-22s and F-35s, in Poland it's 3 bureaucrats doing the work of 1.

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Re: Skin ski, what to get?

Postby davidb » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:25 am

But we need those F 35s so we can protect those guys rollerskiing on their dedicated paved courses.

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Re: Skin ski, what to get?

Postby Magnus Johansson » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:10 pm

skiffrace wrote:
Magnus Johansson wrote:Yes, countryside roads, but we prefer bicycle trails, or even better: roller ski courses.

Dedicated roller ski courses? Wow, they put your tax money to good use in Sweden!!! In US it's F-22s and F-35s, in Poland it's 3 bureaucrats doing the work of 1.

Here is a little video clip from Snöå roller ski course in western Dalecarlia, Sweden: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnVYjC1aAVE

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Re: Skin ski, what to get?

Postby Magnus Johansson » Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:37 am

davidb wrote:But we need those F 35s so we can protect those guys rollerskiing on their dedicated paved courses.

Roller skiers are not interested in that kind of protection, I believe.

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Re: Skin ski, what to get?

Postby Neuro » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:33 am

Neuro wrote:Will come back with more when I've used them further

Had another round today after the weekend snowfall. Around 0 to -1 degree snow and another loop of the track had opened with nice striding areas. Completely different story. Had nice grip everywhere. Could go straight up where the track went to fishbone area, and the glide was still fantastic.

I had to 'run' with them and not just glide in order to get nice weight transfer, but that was expected as that's how I specified them when I ordered. Even though the grip is good, it's still not the rock solid grip that some people are talking about, but like the Rossignol importer said, the skis will get better as the ski and hairs get used more.

Main realization is how great the glide with the skin ski really is and how nice not to buy a lot of waxing gear and use time applying them. Highly recommended.

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Re: Skin ski, what to get?

Postby Magnus Johansson » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:25 pm

Neuro wrote:Had nice grip everywhere. Could go straight up where the track went to fishbone area, and the glide was still fantastic.

Great to read! Congratulations!

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Re: Skin ski, what to get?

Postby Neuro » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:05 pm

Although like I said in an earlier post, when it was icy and old grainy snow, they seemed to work less well than normal skis with klister (that I skied next to). And it's yet to be seen how they will work on cold snow where the glide might be an issue, will let you know.

Should also say the R-skin skis feels very light.


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