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Fischer RC5 vs RC7 Skate Boots & CRS vs SCS Skate Skis

Postby skateski007 » Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:22 pm

Hi,

I am a fitness focused skate skier who likes to hit the trails about 6-8 times a year and may take part in just-for-fun races in the future. I would like to get a new skate package at my local MEC store. I've set my eyes on some Fischer gear (all on sale) but being a somewhat uninformed nordic ski gear person I would like some input from the forum :-)

I would like to know which you recommend from the Fischer lineup and if the extra money for the RC7 boot and SCS ski is worth it:

Boots (I've tried on both size 46 but slightly loose, 45's are too tight. The boots are roughly 100$ difference):
RC5 - feels great - https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5044-067/RC5-Skate-Boots
https://www.fischersports.com/ca_en/rc5-skate-4557

RC7 - feels great - https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5033-974/RC7-Skate
https://www.fischersports.com/ca_en/rc7-skate-4556

Ski's ($50 difference):
CRS Skate - https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5044-064/ ... e-NIS-Skis
https://www.fischersports.com/ca_en/crs-skate-5797

SCS Skate (slightly lighter than CRS) - https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5044-066/ ... e-NIS-Skis
https://www.fischersports.com/ca_en/scs-skate-5766

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Re: Fischer RC5 vs RC7 Skate Boots & CRS vs SCS Skate Skis

Postby Magnus Johansson » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:23 am

skateski007 wrote:Hi, [...] I've set my eyes on some Fischer gear (all on sale) but being a somewhat uninformed nordic ski gear person I would like some input from the forum :-)

Hello! I think you should try out boots of various manufacturers to see what fits you best. Otherwise I recommend spending as much as you can on boots since the more expensive boots in a given category are most of the time better than the cheaper ones.

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Re: Fischer RC5 vs RC7 Skate Boots & CRS vs SCS Skate Skis

Postby skateski007 » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:58 am

Magnus Johansson wrote:
skateski007 wrote:Hi, [...] I've set my eyes on some Fischer gear (all on sale) but being a somewhat uninformed nordic ski gear person I would like some input from the forum :-)

Hello! I think you should try out boots of various manufacturers to see what fits you best. Otherwise I recommend spending as much as you can on boots since the more expensive boots in a given category are most of the time better than the cheaper ones.



Thanks for the reply! I tried the Rossignol X8's and x10's but felt some pressure spots. Salomon's Equipe 8 Boots felt good along with Fischer. Is it common for brands not to be matched (ski/boot) as long as the bindings match?

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Re: Fischer RC5 vs RC7 Skate Boots & CRS vs SCS Skate Skis

Postby Magnus Johansson » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:18 am

skateski007 wrote:Is it common for brands not to be matched (ski/boot) as long as the bindings match?

As long as the binding interface is the same on boots and bindings one can mix brands ad libitum.

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Re: Fischer RC5 vs RC7 Skate Boots & CRS vs SCS Skate Skis

Postby Raubie » Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:07 pm

At almost $300 off (w/tax), I *highly* recommend the RC7 + SCS package. Both are a noticeable improvement in performance over their alternatives, and are a much better value long-term. Too bad MEC doesn't sell the RCR (or RCS).

Being on the Salomon side, I always wondered why MEC never carried Salomon/Atomic's high performance RC Carbon/SLAB line.

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Re: Fischer RC5 vs RC7 Skate Boots & CRS vs SCS Skate Skis

Postby skateski007 » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:44 am

Raubie wrote:At almost $300 off (w/tax), I *highly* recommend the RC7 + SCS package. Both are a noticeable improvement in performance over their alternatives, and are a much better value long-term. Too bad MEC doesn't sell the RCR (or RCS).

Being on the Salomon side, I always wondered why MEC never carried Salomon/Atomic's high performance RC Carbon/SLAB line.


It does sound like a good deal. I just need to decide if I should hold off on the skis until next year when the Turnamic system comes out. I am sure we would have to pay a premium for them and forget about any sales. Not sure if it's worth the wait and the full cost for the performance/convenience.

Yeah, it does seem like MEC is always 1-3 models shy of top end equipment. Would be good for them to stock it in their online store and maybe ship direct from the manufacturer if they don't want to hold on to too much stock.

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Re: Fischer RC5 vs RC7 Skate Boots & CRS vs SCS Skate Skis

Postby Raubie » Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:18 pm

skateski007 wrote:It does sound like a good deal. I just need to decide if I should hold off on the skis until next year when the Turnamic system comes out. I am sure we would have to pay a premium for them and forget about any sales. Not sure if it's worth the wait and the full cost for the performance/convenience.

Yeah, it does seem like MEC is always 1-3 models shy of top end equipment. Would be good for them to stock it in their online store and maybe ship direct from the manufacturer if they don't want to hold on to too much stock.


Ahh, the age-old dilemma, should I put off buying this year for better "x" next year? :)

Personally if those RC7 fit (*snug* heel lock without being too tight otherwise), you'd be wise to grab them while they're in stock. You'll get the benefit of 2-3 months skiing/fitness/training this year. The caveat is proper FIT. High-end performance/race boots will and should feel a little tighter then the lower models. But be prepared to walk away if the 45 or 46 doesn't seem right and look for a deal on Alpina/Rossi/Madhus or Salomon Pro-Link.

Fortunately, MEC carries high-end AT, touring and telemark gear.

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Re: Fischer RC5 vs RC7 Skate Boots & CRS vs SCS Skate Skis

Postby JeffOYB » Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:11 am

what do y'all think of demoing as the best way?

i spose its rare, and maybe demo gear isnt always for sale, but id be inclined toward any gear that i tried and really preferred.

like w bikes

but maybe w new skier one cant really tell and wd need to grow into the gear.

an angle that might get downplayed is that 2nd 3rd tier skis might be more robust. same w poles. depends on where youll be skiing but durability is worth $ to me and its often cheaper in xc race scene
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Re: Fischer RC5 vs RC7 Skate Boots & CRS vs SCS Skate Skis

Postby Neuro » Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:56 pm

FWIW I have the RC7 and find it very good and a joy to put on and use every time. When I bought them a few years ago, I did try all competing models, but the padding and still tight fit just felt that much better. I had to choose 46 where I normally would use 45, but maybe that's what you're experienced yourself.

For skis I was recommended the Rossignol XIUM over the Fischer because of its better stability with double groove and overall design when less than ideal conditions which is common around here. I have since heard World Cup racers with recurring shin issues (typical for skaters) have relief changing to the more stable Rossignols, so I guess it must be true.


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