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Elite racers and their gear

Postby trotro » Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:35 am

I know that elite sport doesn't apply to most of us but I was wondering what skis racers were using. Here are some examples I found (may not be up to date)

Marie-Dorin 168cm / 56 kg. Skis Rossignol WCS S2 186cm
Anais Chevalier 163cm / 53 kg. Skis Rossignol WCS S2 186cm
Dorothea Weirer: 158cm / 60 kg. Skis Rossignol WCS S1 180cm
Martin Forcade: 185cm / 75 kg. Skis Rossignol WCS S2 187cm or 192 cm

So the women are skiing long skis, both for their height and weight. The WCS is 65kg minimum weight in 186 and 54kg in 180cm. It seems Doro is on the correct ski length based on Rossi's charts, as is Martin Forcade but Dorin and Chevalier are on long skis.

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Re: Elite racers and their gear

Postby Neuro » Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:39 am

Weird that the girls would use so long skis. I wonder why.

Just saw them from the race now, and it doesn't look like they have so long skis, but difficult to tell.

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Re: Elite racers and their gear

Postby trotro » Fri Mar 16, 2018 7:16 am

Hi Neuro,
I was going off still shots where you can read the top sheet figures.

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Re: Elite racers and their gear

Postby rmattson » Fri Mar 16, 2018 7:40 am

Do you think that the numbers on the ski do not match the actual numbers of the ski? This has been done in other sports to fool the competition.
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Re: Elite racers and their gear

Postby Neuro » Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:54 am

It's typical that someone hands the athletes a neatly packaged set of skis right after the race for the photos if they've done well, and here errors can creep in. For example, someone actually tried to give Klæbo a completely different brand in the Olympics (Rossignol when he was on Fischer) after he had won, it was bizarre.

Maybe it's also thought that longer skis will show the brand name more in close-ups?

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Re: Elite racers and their gear

Postby Magnus Johansson » Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:33 am

Neuro wrote:Maybe it's also thought that longer skis will show the brand name more in close-ups?

Yes, in interviews after the races the competitors are given special pairs of skis and poles with the brand names at face height. Charlotte Kalla, for example, is 161 cm tall and uses "interview poles" that are 160 cm.

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Re: Elite racers and their gear

Postby trotro » Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:50 am

Anything is possible.

The photos I was looking at were from skiing - races and training. Weirer was on S1 up on the glacier in spring. I think the numbers on her skis were right as they looked very long. I'll post links when I find them. I wondered whether the French team had just given all their female skiers 186 Rossi S2s - although they all seem to be on their own deals.

I guess you need to add a 4kg rifle to the weight figures for biathlon girls.

Here is Weirer on 180s

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Chevalier on her 186s S2s

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I went with Rossis because they are quite easy to identify.

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Re: Elite racers and their gear

Postby Magnus Johansson » Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:08 am

trotro wrote:Dorothea Weirer

Her name is Wierer, isn't it?

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Re: Elite racers and their gear

Postby trotro » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:33 am

Magnus Johansson wrote:
trotro wrote:Dorothea Weirer

Her name is Wierer, isn't it?


it is, it was a repetitive typo :-)

Chevalier is on the 187cm S2 this year

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As Porter Waggoner would say "that's a big ski for a little lady"

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Re: Elite racers and their gear

Postby Neuro » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:11 am

It's interesting. Maybe they just can't make the shorter skis to be as stable in certain conditions?

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Re: Elite racers and their gear

Postby Magnus Johansson » Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:25 pm

trotro wrote:It seems Doro is on the correct ski length based on Rossi's charts, as is Martin Forcade but Dorin and Chevalier are on long skis.

What does the Rossi chart say? I could not find it at www.rossignol.com.

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Re: Elite racers and their gear

Postby Magnus Johansson » Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:09 pm

trotro wrote:Martin Forcade: 185cm (...) as is Martin Forcade (...)

Is this last name another example of repetitive typo?

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Re: Elite racers and their gear

Postby Blah » Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:38 pm

My experience is that most elite athletes choose to rave on longer boards if possible. Keep in mind that they are skiing race room skis made just for them, not the production skis that the Rossi chart is referring to. For Rossi rave room skis there are 4 lengths: 181, 187, 189 and 193. The 181 and 187 skis are for women

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Re: Elite racers and their gear

Postby Neuro » Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:11 pm

There are also athletes who have various issues like chronic shin inflammation for example (not uncommon for skating) and will try different solutions, maybe here the longer skis will help. Simon Fourcade and Henrik L'Abee Lund are two I know of that have this issue, and the latter had success with changing ski brand to get a more stable ski (Rossignols with the dual groove).

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Re: Elite racers and their gear

Postby Magnus Johansson » Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:04 am

Blah wrote:For Rossi rave room skis there are 4 lengths: 181, 187, 189 and 193. The 181 and 187 skis are for women

Very peculiar lengths, I must say. Why is 181 the shortest when many top female athletes are around 160 cm tall and should skate ski on circa 176 cm skis, and some male skiers are 190 cm and should have 209 cm?


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