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Asnes USGI Surplus Skis

Postby pcfithian » Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:44 pm

I just acquired two pairs (190 & 210 cm sizes) of these excellent Asnes wood core skis and would like to share some details. These are first quality, perfect condition Norwegian made skis. A pair of Madshus Voss MGV+ 205 cm are shown for reference.

See pictures below, they are available from Coleman's Surplus. One pair for $19.95, two pair for $29.95. Shipping to NW Indiana was $45 for both pair. Price is unbeatable, they are great skis and perform well. An excellent all around back country ski.

http://store.colemans.com/cart/us-gi-cr ... -2120.html

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Re: Asnes USGI Surplus Skis

Postby montrealer » Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:16 am

Wow, those look pretty interesting. I've been trying to find some info on length recommendations for weight, but it's hard. I found the NATO ones on the Asnes site http://www.asnes.com/produkt/combat-nato/, but they don't appear to be exact the same ski. The sidecut on them is 84/62/74 and they recommend 190-195 for my weight.

I weigh 75kilos/165lbs so I'm thinking either the 190s or 200s in this case. I'm leaning toward the 190s for better grip on climbs but it's hard to say without having seen / felt them. Any ideas have on this?

(apologies for the cross post. I saw a similar post of yours on another forum so I figured I'd reply in both places)

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Re: Asnes USGI Surplus Skis

Postby nxski » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:53 am

I'm guessing these are better than the army surplus skis we have lying around our store!? The military is known for ordering complete garbage in the way of xc skis. We have a pair where the left ski is double the thickness of the right ski! :shock:

Also, what bindings are those holes tapped for?
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Re: Asnes USGI Surplus Skis

Postby pcfithian » Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:43 pm

I believe the holes are for a NATO 120 binding. I plugged them with white sealant.

I'm 195 lbs and the 210's are perfect for me, kick zone is just right.

Here's what the side markings look like:

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Re: Asnes USGI Surplus Skis

Postby pcfithian » Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:07 pm

montrealer wrote:I weigh 75kilos/165lbs so I'm thinking either the 190s or 200s in this case. I'm leaning toward the 190s for better grip on climbs but it's hard to say without having seen / felt them. Any ideas have on this?


Order both. Shipping will be the same. You'll get a pair of 190's and a pair of 200's for ~$75 delivered. Not each, both!

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Re: Asnes USGI Surplus Skis

Postby montrealer » Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:20 pm

pcfithian wrote:
montrealer wrote:I weigh 75kilos/165lbs so I'm thinking either the 190s or 200s in this case. I'm leaning toward the 190s for better grip on climbs but it's hard to say without having seen / felt them. Any ideas have on this?


Order both. Shipping will be the same. You'll get a pair of 190's and a pair of 200's for ~$75 delivered. Not each, both!


Done and done. :-P

Now to get some boots + bindings...

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Re: Asnes USGI Surplus Skis

Postby pcfithian » Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:41 am

I installed Voile 3-pin cable bindings on mine. I also found a killer deal ($80!) on eBay for a new pair of Norwegian made Alpha leather back country boots. See attached.

My wife and I used these last night, she could definitely tell these skis had more glide than the waxless skis she is used to.

If one is considering these skis but is afraid of waxing, Start or other grip tape is an option, several have posted positive experience with it.
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Re: Asnes USGI Surplus Skis

Postby montrealer » Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:10 am

I'm not particularly scared of waxing, though I'm a bit scared of klister. I tend to just break out the waxless skis when it's warm out.

I also bought the skins with these, for more sustained climbs.

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Re: Asnes USGI Surplus Skis

Postby osloskier » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:53 am

nxski wrote:I'm guessing these are better than the army surplus skis we have lying around our store!? The military is known for ordering complete garbage in the way of xc skis. We have a pair where the left ski is double the thickness of the right ski! :shock:


True, the standard NATO ski is known as "NATO planks" in Norway and is best used as firewood :)

The Norwegian army finally got around to getting something better, and Åsnes in cooperation with the military research institute created this instead. The standard bindings are awkward because they're designed to be used with an army boot.

These have very little camber and will not work well with klister or warm waxes. I don't know how the skin attachment system works for these, but Åsnes skis for deep snow is usually used with skins and their civilian skin attachment system is supposedly the best there is, so you can easily attach and remove them as needed.

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Re: Asnes USGI Surplus Skis

Postby pcfithian » Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:08 am

The Asnes USGI skis from Coleman's have plenty of camber. I'll post a picture with measurements on both the 190 and 210 sizes later.

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Re: Asnes USGI Surplus Skis

Postby osloskier » Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:12 am

Just checking that I understand the English technical terms correctly: Camber means how the ski curves up from the ground to keep the kick wax out of the snow, and how stiff the curvature is, right? That's called "spenn" in Norwegian, which translates literally to "tension".

I researched it a bit more. Åsnes themselves characterize the camber of Ingstad/nato combat as slight ("svakt spenn"), meaning that there's more camber than in an alpine ski but less than in xc skis meant for tracks and kick wax. Users report that there's enough camber to affect turning ability negatively and striding positively. There's always some variability between pairs, and shops use this to pick skis to suit specific needs. Maybe you got relatively stiff ones?

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Re: Asnes USGI Surplus Skis

Postby pcfithian » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:15 am

Osloskier, your interpretation of camber is correct.

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Re: Asnes USGI Surplus Skis

Postby osloskier » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:22 pm

Anyway, I think you got the deal of the century. The ski currently costs USD 617 in Oslo: http://www.oslosportslager.no/produkt/a ... 18003.aspx

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Re: Asnes USGI Surplus Skis

Postby montrealer » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:34 pm

osloskier wrote:Anyway, I think you got the deal of the century. The ski currently costs USD 617 in Oslo: http://www.oslosportslager.no/produkt/a ... 18003.aspx


I also thought this, but the dimensions seem to be different.

The skis you link to are 84/62/74 while these are 75/65/70. Not a huge difference, but they're not the exact same ski and there could be other differences as well.

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Re: Asnes USGI Surplus Skis

Postby osloskier » Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:23 pm

montrealer wrote:The skis you link to are 84/62/74 while these are 75/65/70. Not a huge difference, but they're not the exact same ski and there could be other differences as well.


That's definitely going to produce different turning ability. Hmm, very weird. I suggest sending an email to post@asnes.com.


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